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over it, follow us on twitter. >>shepard: good do see you. the news begins anew on "studio b" today. brought to you by delta. not really. president obama and governor romney are staying out of the spotlight busy preparing for the presidential debate tomorrow. round two could have major impact on the race which is tied nationally. the 14-year-old girl from the taliban shot in the head because she told them she wanted women to get educated is getting medical treatment in the united kingdom. what in the world? the pictures are great, we are proud of him and all of that, but 24 miles in a fall? wait until you see the new pictures, all ahead unless breaking news changes everything. this is "studio b." first from fox at 3:00 in new york city, the race for the
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white house is closer than ever as the candidates prepare for the second debate. president obama expected to come out swinging according to those involved after a performance in the first day he admits was not his best. the polls tightened and governor romney raising in the national level in the league. the governor is expected to hit on the administration's muddled response to libya, the attack that kills the ambassador and others. romney supporters say this represents a major foreign policy fair and democrats accuse republicans of exploiting the tragedy. ed henry is live in williamsburg, virginia. the white house still taking heat from republicans over the attack in benghazi. >>reporter: that is right. it is relevant tomorrow because this is the first time the president will be in a debate where foreign policy is on the table, both domestic and foreign policy will be at issue in this townhall-style format.
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the first denver was about the economy and domestic issues. when vice president biden got questions of libya in the v.p. debate on thursday, and suggests that he and the president had not been in the loop on the security questions and requests for more security in libya on the ground that were denied by the state department, it kickoff a new firestorm with republicans suggesting that maybe there is a coverup and democrats say that everyone should calm down. take a listen. >> this is the same administration that leaks every detail of classified operations that are successful. in a week you had three stories about sigh before attacks again the iranian nuclear program, about disrupting the underwear bomber case, about every detail of bin laden all over "new york times" and the press showing how strong and effective this administration was. they are very political when it comes to foreign policy. but when something goes bad they deny, deseen and delay. >> we want to get to the bottom
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of it and the first order of business is to bring to justice those who committed this heinous act and find out what went wrong and what adjustments need to be made to secure our diplomats. >> the third and final debate is in floridaed if on foreign policies and national security and the middle east is a topic. libya could come up there. by the way, the final debate is a couple of weeks before the election so both candidates are running out of time to shake up what is a 50/50 week. >>shepard: tomorrow is debate number two and the president is preparing for that. how is it going? >>reporter: he only came out briefly yesterday to deliver some pizza to local campaign volunteers trying to get-out-the-vote. it has been spent mostly behind closed doors at the kings mill resort. the aides are acknowledging he has to do a better job than last
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time. they are saying he will be more aggressive and passionate. but there is a flip side. since this is a townhall-style format with undecided voters if you come out too aggress ever and do some of what vice president biden did which became controversial with the laughing and interrupting, et cetera, that could come across as negative. the advisors say it will be a balancing act for the president tomorrow. >>shepard: thank you, ed. as i reported it is a dead heated nationally in the home stretch. now the real clear politics average of the polls, both are tied down to the the decimal point at 47.3 each. and governor romney has surged after the strong performance in the first debate. the tied race shows the importance of the debate. aides of obama say heel bring a new strategy and governor romney's advisors say they are
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ready for the challenge. the format is very different from denver, with members of the audience asking questions, and that emphasizes connecting with common voters rather than getting aggressive with a challenger. now we have carl cameron in new york. how does a candidate prepare for this they date? >>carl: that becomes body mannerisms, body language, the vibe the candidates give off. president obama will take questions from the audience, empathize with them, and pivot and turn it into a criticism of mitt romney for what the democrats say is absence of specifics or bad math open domestic tax cut on budget policy are inexperience for foreign policy the for mitt romney it is different. he has been doing mock debate preparation with a copy of the debate stage and he is being taught how to lean into questions, how to make himself more accessible, how to make a
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connection. the criticism is he is stiff and doesn't work with townhall environments very well. tomorrow, more importantly than the substance of the questions, this many cases, both campaigns are preparing their candidates do make sure they can connect with the average voters. >>shepard: after the last debate it is believed the pressure is on the president but doesn't that create a situation where expectations are lower so the bar for doing better is lower? >>carl: we have had the vice presidential debate in the interim. many polls suggested that biden won on substance so on policy there has been momentum shift for the democrats from the vice president to the extent it is relevant in the first place but many think it is nut -- is not relevant. romney knows he will be attacked and how he receives the criticisms and turns them into counterattacks will be part of
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how he is judged. the emphasis on policy, the need for specifics from a townhall-style debate will come from voters so if romney tries to slough it off without getting into democrat the or answering it, there are questions whether the moderator will jump in and whether he will leave them unsatisfyied. watch for both candidates to wrap up by saying, did i answer the question? >>shepard: they going after the moderator, and i have watched her for 30 years and anyone in the business thinks she is fair and as smart and as looking for facts as anyone we know. >>carl: i have written about this in campaigns past and she knows both candidates very well and spent a lot of time with president obama before he was president, when he was senator and covered mitt romney in 2008. she knows them. she is well mannered. she is plight. she is a pro. if they try to spin the questions out she will try to dry out more specificity on behalf of the american voters.
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based upon the media criticism the moderator will fall short and perhaps portray a bias, hopefully the bias is betrayed on of behalf of educating more voters. >>shepard: now a history professor at rice university, douglas brinkley. preemptive strikes again the mediator and mode -- moderator are not new. i am sure candy is tough enough to deal with any finger-pointing. >>guest: i echo what was said, she is a fantastic interviewer, very fair, the presidential debate commission picked her. it is just today that both team romney and obama got rattled with the idea that she could be asking questions. they are prepare, themselves and re-createing in romney's case the menu and learning how to
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have empathy with the audience and how they answer questions and suddenly someone who a drill sergeant when it comes to talking to politicians could be coming into the game more than they anticipated. i am sure they are having, today, to do the candy crowley preparation work. >>shepard: have you seen the effort by people on both sides of the political aisle, not one side or the other, but both sides to figure out someone to blame and sometimes it is the media, sometimes it is mannerisms, whatever you want it to be, they seem to be coming up with something. >>guest: whoever loses is going to whine the loudest. anyone, whether jim lehrer on
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whoever, they will do a good job. but after the first debate, james player was so passive, you will see candy crowley saying she will not let anyone off the hook and she will be just a big love fest between the audience and the candidates. i will be controlling this. that will make for a much more substantive debate. remember, this townhall is a charade in that the questions have been picked and everything is very tame. there will not be any noise in the background. she will be controlling it. we will all be watching the body language and now the pivot, to having to act a certain way toward an audience and deal with the toughest interviewers in the business, on the other hand, it is almost two different trials they will be dealing with. >>shepard: what i always
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notice, politicians necessity if they run out the clock you get to ask, cannot interrupt a follow-up and parts of country think when you interrupt, it is rude. if you do not interrupt you will not again the question. >>carl: they are masters of the filibuster and neither can look like they are whining or weak before it starts. they express concern to the debate commission they are not afraid of her, they want to make sure the memorandum of understanding is not deviated from too much. >>shepard: more on the presidential debate. we heard talk about president obama's strategy to win back the moment up and we learn what to expect from the contest and saudi arabia and other arab nations have been sending weapons to syrian rebels. they are trying to help kick the regime out of there. we also now know most of the weapons are going to islamic militants. how will that play out?
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>>shepard: fox has con knowed many weapons that the gush -- gulf arab states sent are going to jihadist. it is reported that there is no way to vet the rebel groups and saudi arabia and qatar funnel weapons to jihadists rather than secular fighters. as an american official put it and i quote, "the opposition groups that are receiving the most of the lethal aid are exactly the ones we don't want do have it." officials claim that the united states is not directly arming rebel fighters but the c.i.a. has reportedly sent officers to turkey in an effort to help funnel the weapons. now jennifer is at the pentagon this afternoon. this is not the first time we have concerned over jihadists in syria getting weapons. >>reporter: in fact the state department has been warning about this from the beginning.
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it is the qatar and saudis that were providing the weapons to the syrian opposition. >> i will just say that we have been tracking this all along. we have been discussing our concerns about extremists high, jag the operations of the syrian people. we have urged careful vetting all those things and we will continue to do so. >>reporter: another senior official said it is not exactly easy to determine whether all of this lethal material goes, which explains why the united states is toll roading carefully. some aid falls in the wrong saids and in syria the right hands today can be the wrong hands the next day. the israels have not requested that the united states be more involved in syria and have not requested that the united states arm the opposition because they know how quickly the weapons can
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be turned on them, a neighbor syria. >>shepard: the president is on the record about this issue of sending weapons. >>reporter: the president has been opposed, that is right and taking criticism if stopping short of sending weapons or ordering the military to do anything and syria to stop the bashar al-assad regime. candidate romney said this last week. >> in syria, i will work with our pans to identify and organize those members of the opposition who share our values. then ensure they have the amendments they need to defeat assad with taverns and helicopters and fighter jets. >>reporter: the syrian government deny add report that shows remnants of cluster bombs that were dropped over several syrian cities on the road north from the capital to aleppo. the weapons explode in the air over the city killing civilians and militants alike and are banned by most nations. syria never signed the human
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rights conventions. >>shepard: thank you, we we have mike barrett, former intelligence officer. candidate romney points out we want to work out with our pans, and figure out who is whom among the syrian rebels. that is proving to be difficult? >>guest: it is. i was a naval intelligence officer. what you realize is how little we know about who the people are today. as a comment earlier during the reporting was, whoever could be on our side today could be against us tomorrow. we should have learned this lesson when we armed those in vietnam and with the taliban during the russian invasion and occupation of afghanistan. we have a terrible history of this. it is really hard. people are militants would want power, when they get power they will be less beholden to us, the notion we will have a last power over them is frankly naive. >>shepard: you started
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speaking about this eight months ago on this program, saying if anyone starts arming these guys it sinnestable that some good and some not so good from our perspective will get ahold and it will not work. and sure enough, here we are. >>guest: look at iraq, afghanistan, libya, egypt. just if those four countries we have leadership than was different a couple of years ago and we have things that are antiu.s. interests. we are seeing libyans with an open arms bazaar. this is really dangerous for united states interests. you think of the attack on the embassy and consulate, you are talking about heavy weapons. that is the point. it is bad enough if they are shooting each other with light armor and machine guns and pistols but when you start giving .50 caliber weapons and larger, that is dangerous stuff. >>shepard: some indications cluster bombs could be in the
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mix and that is what it sounds like, they drop everywhere and kill everyone. >>guest: they are very hard to counter against. this is where we get into a real challenge, as a realist, frankly, the assad regime, he is horrible and a terrible person, it is reasonably stable and maybe that is boater for us in the long run than having a al qaeda link or hardcore groups coming to power. thing of who are the people doing this? the saudi difficult regime is on our side but there is a strong trend there that are anti-regime. the people we end up arming, if we get more involved in this, we will have do deal with the outcome but i would rather deal with the outcome with them having light weapons rather than heavy duty weapons. there is a significant difference. >>shepard: well, a teen able activist tried to get a better education for herself and other girls so the taliban tried to
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assassinate her. now a massive show of support helps get the girl out of the kill h killers' reach but slow is far from out of danger. the continuing coverage of the girl from pakistan.
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>>shepard: a teenage activists badly hurt in an assassination text in pakistan is getting medical treatment in great britain. slow was air lifted out of pakistan after militants of the taliban shot her in the head for speaking out saying girls have a right to education. the taliban threatened to track her down and kill her for what the taliban call "western thinking." but despite the long and troubled history, tens of thousands of people in pakistan are taking to the streets in support of this outspoken
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teenage girl as she fights for her life. jonathan hunt is with us. >>jonathan: the british team of doctors are still assessing her injuries right now and are not giving us a great deal of detail about this. but we do know that she suffered a traumatic head injury. we know that doctors in pakistan before she was flown to the u.k. removed a bullet from her brain. the only thing that the doctors are really telling us in britain right now is that the very fact of her being brought to britain is a sign of their optimism. >> the doctors at children's hospital believe that she has a chance of making a good recovery, clearly it would be inappropriate to put her through this if there is no hope of a decent recovery. it is clear they believe there is a chance of a decent recovery.
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>>jonathan: she is at one of the best hospitals britain for these kind of injuries, the queen his bet hospital in birmingham has "dealt with every single british battle casualty," of the last decade. >>shepard: the hope would be that inside pakistan she could be the rallying point around which they would dismiss the taliban. any chance? >>jonathan: there is some indication that could be happening. clearly the shooting of a 14-year-old schoolgirl has horrified many people. there was a very large rally in the southern pakistani city of karachi in support of the girl. there have been other rallies but they have only numbered in the 100's and western leaders, as you can imagine, are voicing their outright support for this little girl. >> the united kingdom stands shoulder to shoulder with the people of pakistan trying to
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ensure that young people have a proper education and in supporting this 14-year-old. >> the u.n. envoy for global education has announce add petition in her name-calling on pakistan to ensure that every single girl has the chance to go to school. given that the pakistani government has not condemned this attack, it remains to be seen what they will do. >>shepard: incredible. the man accused of orchestrating the attacks of 9/11 in front of a judge but the judge had to rule on a battle overstate secrets. that is an important ruling. >> what does it feel like to fall 24 miles from mile? this guy can now describe it.
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>>shepard: thisst "studio b" at the bottom the hour and time for the top of the news. after months of delay the five accused of plotting the attacks of 9/11 appeared before a military judge in the united states who will decide how much the world can hear about their time spent in secret prisons with the prosecution asking the judge to approve an order to prevent the release of classified information during the trial but lawyers for the accused argue that order will hurt their case and prevent the
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public from lending what happened to the suspects during years of dedense and interrogation. the c.i.a.'s own declassified documents show agents waterboarded sheikh mohammed the man who claimed he orchestrated the 9/11 attacks. waterboarded him 183 times. the prosecution says the alleged terrorist cannot talk about were of what happened before they arrived at guantanamo bay because that information is top secret. the families of lend victims wait for justice. now the news great catherine live from guantanamo bay this afternoon. >>reporter: thank you, there is in question the most contentious issue here this week is going to be the handling of classified information and what the public will learn about the time inside the prison where they were surged to the enhanced interrogation. and it has been told by a lawyer of sheikh mohammed there is no
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question his client was tortured. there is in question he was brought to the brink of death 183 time by our government. that is a mock execution. >>reporter: this is a sketch from this morning and you can see sheikh mohammed with the full beard, dyed red, with the co-conspirators accuse of murdering 3,000 l is a change from the i -- arraignment today, they quiet and their heads were covered. the moment belonged to the parents of a woman killed on the 92nd floor, her first business trip to new york city on 9/11. her mother said she simply wanted to be in court today. it was important to be there for
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her daughter and she also hoped to walk along the defense table to look each of the 9/11 suspects in the eye to see if they had a soul, to see if they could be human because she could not imagine that given what they accomplished on 9/11. the aclu will be in court arguing that the constitution applies to the guantanamo bay trial and the military sentence which controls what the reporters and the public will hear, is anything but transparent. >>shepard: thank you, catherine. back to tomorrow night, the second presidential debate on long island. both nominees are holed up in on rehearsals the we saw the power of the matchups in denver and the president admitted the performance fell short. the polls indicate that he has been paying on the national level for that among the voters. what strategy shifts should we
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spent tomorrow and how does the town hall format shake things up? we go to our panel, with the executive director of young democrats of america, and a new jersey assembly man and the highest ranking member of the assemblies republican caucus. >> sir, your thoughts on how your candidate has to approach this tomorrow given what happened a week ago and the format change. >>guest: it was a knock out punch early. this is a prize fight where president obama got knocked out. so he is coming back, he will take some big punches. question is, can he respond to counter punches on the economy in that is where i think he is weak without the business background. foreign policy, he is probably wanting to emphasize that because he now has some experience there but this is the second fight, you get knocked out you must be wobbling, and mitt romney is ready to give and
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counter punches. >>guest: well, i don't think there is any disagreement on the fact that president obama was off his game and romney was on his game. that made for a dynamic people had not been prepared for. as we go into a townhall pfarrer -- format, romney has to connect, a format the president will be stronger on. where he was off in the first debate, he relied on a lost reports. now that he is back to where he is comfortable, connecting with people, we believe he will be much stronger. >>shepard: we heard a lot amongs of the moderator and you heard our discussion regarding candy crowley, it seems to be common lately to launch strikes against whoever the to sides can come up with and candy crowley is the target. >>guest: i don't buy that. i don't buy the attack the
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moderator. i don't go with that. these are two professionals. they can handle a moderator, even arguably a moderator that could be bias. >>shepard: candy crowley? come on, she is among the fairist ever known. >>guest: these are two professional whose can handle that. that is ridiculous. i am looking forward to this rumble on long island but unless the president can be substantive on economic issues, he is going to fall prey that he does not have the business background. that is what he has to do, prove that he, in his heart, understands the economy and how to handle it. that is where he failed the first time. >>guest: the president can show 30 months of private growth in the job market. he has foreign policy experience
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and now he has experience running the country. mitt romney does not have foreign policy expense, but this should be a difficult topic for him. paul ryan has struggled with the issue during the vice presidential debate but back to the economy, the president does have a record that he can run on, and he is running on the record opposed to governor romney who has been running away from the record. when he was the governor in massachusetts, they lost manufacturing jobs at double the rate of rest of the country. he is running away from his record, not president obama. >>shepard: thank you both, we are out of time. i will report live tomorrow with our coverage just before 9:00 eastern time, 8:00 in oxford, right here on fox news. >> school officials ordered to carry cards that track when the students are in class and it could save the district millions
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>>shepard: some patients and privacy advocates are blasting a couple of schools in texas because they are tracking students with chips. a middle school and high school in san antonio must now wear i.d. cards embedded with the electronic chips, the school district reports that the chips help them track attendance which is directly tied to state funding. the school district spokesman says the school has no intention of spying on students but the practice is called "dehumanizing," adding "what kind of lesson does it teach our children if they are chipped like cattle and every move tracked." it could team them what their likes will be like, big brother
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always knows where we are, we can even get a traffic ticket without being there. >>guest: i point out, there is tracking and then there is tracking. we have g.p.s. signals and then these chips, which beam for a few feet or a yard or two. when the student leaves the school grounds they are no longer tracked. they are off the grid. we are not talking about continuous monitoring, not every step the child makes they are much withed. it is not like that, they claim. what we need is to have guidelines set in blaze to determine what they can and can't do. >>shepard: as you go into a class, that is noted by the computer. much like there is not, as far as i know, a drone tracking me from intersection to intersection, as far as i knows they just have cameras in certain intersections so it is life like. >>guest: exactly. there is the potential for a lost abuse here.
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that is what everyone is concerned about. a number of groups have said we need to slow back on this, there is too much potential, and i could list a bunch of examples, trackers in the bathroom, how long is the student in the toilet. this is potentially a probable but why think this is what they doing. we are placing a lot of faith and trust in the schools and we have to back up on the trust. the school probablies probably, is not going to abuse that. >>shepard: what they trying to do is prove our attendance is what we are saying it is, it is exact now. but these are cards are right? so if i want to, i can hand my buddy my card, and, boom, my attendance is tracked; that true? >>guest: i am sure that is happening every day. that is what i would think. >>shepard: make eye scans are
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next. at ole miss it is thumb prints to get in and out of the buildings. >>guest: another aspect is if there is an emergency, a fire in the school, a lost smoke, how do they keep track of who is where? this is a way to say we are missing three kids, boom, boom, pool, here they are. >>shepard: unless they drop their card on way out. >>guest: that is the risk. >>shepard: the man who broke the sound barrier with his body did not even feel it. more from the 43-year-old human from record record breaking leap from the edge of leap. that balloon is ten stories higher than our skyscraper in midtown manhattan and he went up 24 miles into the sky! my doctor told me calcium
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>>shepard: the president has order u.s. flags to fly at half staff in honor of former u.s. senator arlen specter, the long time pennsylvania lawmakers died this weekend, complications from lymphoma. he spent most of three decades in the senate as a republican and a moderate republican. but he was often at odds with g.o.p. leaders and known to cross party lines. he switched teams altogether and joined the democrats but the career ended in 2010 after a loss to a liberal challenger. in a statement the president called him "fiercely independent, never putting party or ideology ahead of the people who he was chosen to serve." senator specter dead at age 82. just in, word that the steroid shots for back point may not be the only thing infecting people with meningitis. a serious development.
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officials with the food and drug administration are working to confirm three infections which they say have come from different products. but all from the same massachusetts-based compounding pharmacy where they make the products. we don't know exactly what other products could be tainted. health officials say tainted steroid shotted has fungus and infected 3112 people and 15 people are confirmed dead, and officials in person report that the state's first case, and the pharmacy suspected in the outbreak is under several state and federal investigations, just moments ago the state of tennessee's pharmacy board unanimously voted to pull that firm's license to work in tennessee. the (o) it break hit the volunteer state hardest with 53 infections. the record-breaking jump from the edge of space, millions watched as felix baumgartner fell to earth for more than 24 miles away topping speeds of 80
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--830 miles per hour, reaching super sonic speed in nine minute death defying plunge. >> you are so humble you do not think of breaking records or you do not thinking nothing but coming back alive the you do not want to deal away from your parents and girlfriend in front of them. >>shepard: red bull sponsored the jump. to many in the space community it was more than a marketing campaign, even nasa took notice, tweeting congratulations to felix baumgartner. i understand they almost pulled the plug again. >>trace: the balloon at 80,000' you could hear felix baumgartner telling mission
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control he was not getting enough heat to his face because he was about to fall through temperatures of minus 60 degrees and if the face plate freezes over he would be flying blind. he would not be able to see the horizon do put himself in a stable position and could not see to know when to pull the shoot but they switched power sources to the battery pack inside the suit and it worked and the mission did go on as planned. but there was hesitation for a bit. >>shepard: i heard you saying last hour that at going you thought he was done. >>trace: a lot of experts did because the biggest fear was the death spiral 10 second to 20 seconds he was spinning uncontrollably, he said and i quote, "it was hell and it was terrifying." in the ten seconds the experts said he could have gone unconscious or even had his
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eyeballs burst because of the amazing g force but he was able to straighten outside, get up to speeds of 833 miles per hour, one and a quarter times the speed of sound but he could not tell how fast he was going but he is glad it is over. >> i know the whole world is watching and i wish the world could see what i see and sometimes you have to go up really high to understand how small you are. i would say it is way more difficult than anything i have done so far and i am done. i think. >>trace: he will fly helicopters now, the free fall was 4:20. the world record is held by his mentor at 5:30 back in 1960. >>shepard: could there be long
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lasting trouble with the body? >>trace: he will be tested. nasa is very interested because they are looking at the suit, looking for the next generation of space suits. they want to know exactly how he did through that. that is why they will use all of his measurements and if he did well, which we think he did, suit could be the next on astronauts going into deep space. >>shepard: good stuff, trace. >> leaking propane and a lit cigarette is not a good combination but a 12-year-old save his grandmother from a ball of fire. oney nut cheerios has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy.
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>>shepard: a 12-year-old risked his life to save his grandmother. officials blame a leaking propane heater for the fire north of portland oregon. the grandmother lit a cigarette
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and the room went up in flames. >> i carried her outside and set her on the ground and i went to the next door neighbor and said call the ambulance. >> what did you think when you looked in the mirror? >> whoa, i'm ugly. >> he will be just fine and will not have any scars they say. his grandmother is in serious condition but she, too, is expected to survive. with we wrap it up, police in the netherlands say they made one of biggest drug busts in european union's history. nine continues of -- tons of cocaine with five arrests good news for a zoo in because the smugglers hid the huge stamp of shipments in bananas from ecuador after they seized the coke they did not see any reason to keep the fruit so they gave the pa 19s to a local zoo the hope the zoo keepers

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